DjangoBot: #django

As long as there are emos, MySpace will survive

They do it with less servers than Facebook

meinspace.com is better now

I stopped using Facebook when they let non-students and non-graduates use it...

Which is quite impressive seeing as facebook is lamp

SEJeff_work: facebook is erlang

Some of it

facebook isnt lamp

I wonder what they use for meinspace.com... LISP? ADA?

well its lam+languages

Quite a bit is in hadoop

anyways

and php

MySpace doesnt do half of what FB does so you cant really compare it

and their tech server errors all the time

The application level monitoring and perf counters myspace have is one of the most impressive things I've seen ever

lol, all this talk grew out of someone mentioning South and then Rails migrations

South ftw

rails migrations rock

i like the fact that 3rd party libs aren't a bitch in rails

rlofthouse ftw

rails migrations suck

i HATE using 3rd party libs in django because it requires installing 10 effing libs on every server

davidcramer_: haha

andym: when django has contrib.migrations you can say that :P

davidcramer_: Plugins :D

*migrations suck

import evolutions :)

Hmm

*evolution

Pygments Lexer-guesser SUCKS

i inherited a rails project with over 200 migrations

the only way to change the database structure should be to delete the entire project and start from scratch

SWEET another 3rd party lib to install on 10 servers!

and some of them worked

gordonjcp: Diablo Hardcore

:)

davidcramer, Thats what config management is for though. It makes those problems simple

any attempt to restructure the database should dd /dev/urandom all over your home disk

schemaless databases rock because you don't need migrations

design the database and know what the app is going to do

here here

and then don't fuck with it

do migrate data on the fly when you discover it's out of sync

do=you

whats config management? :)

oh no gordonjcp not this again

hahah exactly

gordonjcp: shit changes

thus the need for my JSONField + indexer app

gordonjcp: thanks god i have users that regularly pay for evolutions

but that doesnt require migrations so i guess its win?

RaceCondition, everyblock.com == you?

davidcramer_: you mean an app that generates tables on the fly?

hey... am i allowed to have a model field with an underscore? a_b or whatever ... trying to render {{ ob.a_b }} in my template is just showing a blank ..

RaceCondition: no, it just indexes non-columns

SEJeff_work: what? am I the author of everyblock.com?

yes

I'm asking

schemaless databases are still a pain in the butt

SEJeff_work: no, it's Adrian Holovaty's, I think :P

Ah ok

or perhaps that's just the zodb

Was curious where he gets the LA crime data from

davidcramer_: that's what I meant, yeah, I'm doing the same thing

we only use it for random meta data

because alters on large dbs = suck :)

I use it for everything in my CMS

but i also use it on lifestrm for events so they can be abstract classes with varying metadata

as the data in a CMS is so volatile

andym: I think this is an opportune time for me to point you towards ??djangocon

andym: DjangoCon: BEER and ASS: http://www.djangocon.org/

??djangocon

DjangoCon: BEER and ASS: http://www.djangocon.org/

ftw

Beer and Ass?

well technically EuroDjangoCon was Whiskey and Ass

Does anyone have an example of a model with a custom save() that will update a set of static views? Kind of like writing out html files when the model is saved

but it's the same thing

For a high performace CMS with mostly non-changing data

SEJeff_work: cache_backend?

davidcramer, I'll take a look at it. Still very new to django

andym: ha, just realised who you are :)

win

andym: who are you :P

i'm da man!

RaceCondition: I changed it from <code> to <code_LANGUAGE> :) the lexer_guesser in pygments sucked..

I have the sneaky suspicion it starts with Britney and rhymes with Smears

ok @vary_permalink is now live on 5 sites :P

my risk of going insane from customizations is less likely now

I've done alot today... I managed to get a way to embedd youtube and pictures and now syntaxhilight

all without using markdowns!

markdown syntaxhilight sucked donkey-dick

Iradieh_, Do you mind being a bit more SFW? Please, think of the children

Your job scans for word?

Not really, its just uncalled for

Jeff's boss, SEJeff_work likes written eroticism!

This isn't #4chan :)