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might not be the best approach, but i couldnt find any examples (or even a way) to extend it how I wanted to

and i think it will work well :)

what about feedjack?

not what you wanted?

let me look

oh no i dont want something that does stuff

i just want a feed parser :D

and it uses the "excellent" feedparser ;)

what might be the right sytax to find the path of any module that's on sys.path?

hi

My django app needs to have custom configuration. Where should I put this?

kanzure: settings.py

[530]: I added a variable to settings.py and it doesn't seem to be globally accessible throughout my project.

[530]: what do I do?

kanzure: "from settings import your_var" doesn't work?

kanzure: um, globally how?

sjl: okay, nevermind :)

I'll do that from now on.

from django.conf import settings

sjl: yeah, you shouldn't be accessing settings like that

SmileyChris: Why's that?

sjl: if it's project level setting, you should be using the method [530] showed above

SmileyChris: That's what I figured you meant, but why?

sjl: because who's to say the project is using that settings module?

sjl: if you use from django.conf import settings, it's decoupled

SmileyChris: If I built the project, me, but I can see how a reusable app would want to use the other method

sjl: you really shouldn't have your project's modules directly on the python path anyway, it makes for a messy namespace

sjl: but yes, you are more than welcome to use whatever method you like - it's good to recommend best practices though ;)

So the default structure as recommended in the tutorial, etc is not the best one?

sjl: the imports there use the project name

they don't have to -- "from myapp.models import whatever" always seems to work for me, which means that myapp is on the path

that's because runserver does stupid things

and it's not good

and you're importing a separate copy of the module

SmileyChris: are you saying all app's should be INSIDE a project?

kylef: no, if you're making generic apps then place them on the python path

And any other third-party apps should be copied/symlinked INSIDE a project and imported that way?

i don't place them in the project module at all

there should only be one way to import the module

neither do I, prefer to seperate everything. No linking to a project.

I made the mistake when I was learning python/django and had to go through bunch of files renaming stuff when I wanted to use the app on another project

so for some applications (third party/generic) you have them outside the project and import one way, and for other applications you have them inside and import another way?

kylef: depends on the project - if the apps are one-off I'll usually keep them inside project.appname - unless i'm "virtualenv"ing, my repository normally contains src/ which gets added to the pythonpath (and contains the project and any standalone apps)

sjl: yep, see above

so if you think an app is tied to a project then realize it's really more generic than you thought and you want to decouple it you get to go through and edit all the import statements inside?

yes - find and replace is easy

sed to the rescue

or ctrl-h in eclipse :)

then you don't have to remember weird syntaxes

find . -name \*.py -exec sed -i pye -e "s/project\.appname/appname/" {} \; :P

how would i integrate jcrop in to the admin?

m1chael: add the relevant js to the Media class of your form/modeladmin

but really, i don't know what jcrop is

m1chael: looking at what it is, seems like you'd be better making a custom view for your admin

okay ive never done that before... ive done cgi type things before.. im still pretty new with all of this

Any canadians here who can tell me about pricing for a US citizen to go to a community college in Toronto area? :)

hi

can anyone explain what an error : ImportError('Settings cannot be imported, because environment variable DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE is undefined.',) means ? It's appeared when I try to import another file into my settings.py and that file imports django models.

interstar: before you can make use of some components of Django (ORM, templates, etc.) settings must already be available.

interstar: so trying to import something in settings which requires something which requires settings won't work.

ubernostrum so are you saying that I can't do anything with models in something imported into settings.py?

interstar: I'm saying that if you need to import something in your settings file, it can't directly or indirectly make use of anything which requires settings to already be defined.

ubernostrum ok. thanks

what may cause this error: invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'test' in get_db_prep_value

jimi_hendrix: most likely, you're trying get a model where the field is an integer (usually the pk) using a string value

pk?

oo i see

Is the app django-profile ( http://bitbucket.org/ubernostrum/django-profile... ) same as this in the docs ( http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/aut... ). In other words, do I need to install django-profile ( http://bitbucket.org/ubernostrum/django-profile... ) or is in the django install?

Is the app django-profile ( http://bitbucket.org/ubernostrum/django-profile... ) same as this in the docs ( http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/aut... ). In other words, do I need to install django-profile ( http://bitbucket.org/ubernostrum/django-profile... ) or is in the django install?

pilgrim_: I belive they are two seperate things, I think django-profile takes care of views and urls for the profile auth module

kylef: k thanks

It adds functionality for using profiles.

is there a way to build models.py around an already existing database?

inspectdb

It can guess, but you'll need to edit the result.

is there something like get that returns a list of 0 or more objects

That would be filter.

Or any of a half dozen other queryset methods.

if i did Model.objects.filter(username='foo') wouldnt that return foobar aswell

No, why would it?

someone told me it would

You'd have to use a lookup filter such as contains or startswith for that.

filter(username__contains='foo')