2008-8-4

22:53 wmealin1
Kurushiyama: yeah.. could be...
22:53 wmealin1
Kurushiyama: Although I hope it is just that..and he's not dead/hurt.
22:53 billy
should i have a column that gets inc/dec when objects are added/removed?
22:53 billy
yogi_: mysql
22:53 wmealin1
Kurushiyama: do you know if anyone here knows him irl ?
22:54 Kurushiyama
Prometheus: most people really don't need to worry about that - if you setup apache well, no fuss with that
22:54 Kurushiyama
wmealin1: sorry, no
22:54 Prometheus
Kurushiyama: lighty + fcgi actually! ;)
22:54 Prometheus
but yeah, no need to worry
22:54 yogi_
billy: mysql..MyISAM? usually counts are really fast for that engine. but yes, a row that holds the current count would be the fastest way, especially for large data sets
22:54 Kurushiyama
Prometheus: I have better experience whith cherokee, but mainly that is a matter of taste
22:55 billy
yogi_: thanks for the help
22:55 Prometheus
Kurushiyama: but I think learning about things like scaling before you need to do it, isn't exactly a bad idea ;)
22:55 Prometheus
Kurushiyama: learning about it few hours after you should've scaled up tends to be too late
22:55 Prometheus
thus I'd be interested to hear davidcramer's talk at djangocon
22:56 Prometheus
I find scaling always an interesting topic :)
22:56 Kurushiyama
Prometheus: if you plan to use it on large scale sites, you should look for scaling before you write the first line of code ;)
22:56 juice_d
Zalamander: is there a way to see the query its generating
22:56 davidcramer
oy!
22:56 Prometheus
Kurushiyama: of course :)
22:56 wmealin1
davidcramer: what ! ?
22:56 Prometheus
davidcramer: highlighting is beautiful
22:56 wmealin1
oh, yeah.. djangocon you lucky dogs
22:56 davidcramer
i have made the coolest wp plugin of all time
22:56 Prometheus
haha, coolest wp
22:56 Prometheus
err.
22:56 wmealin1
davidcramer: lies.
22:56 Prometheus
wp is uncool, sorry
22:56 Kurushiyama
wp?
22:56 wmealin1
wordpress
22:57 wmealin1
exploit vendor.
22:57 Prometheus
there's no way you can make anything cool for that, not even if you added 10 buzzwords to it
22:57 wmealin1
11 buzzwords ?
22:57 Prometheus
nope
22:57 Prometheus
won't cut it
22:57 Kurushiyama
So what blogging engine do you guys use?
22:57 Prometheus
davidcramer: let me guess though, lifestreaming? ;)
22:57 Kurushiyama takes cover
22:57 davidcramer
haha, ya
22:57 gordonjcp doesn't blog
22:57 davidcramer
im rewriting it now
22:57 davidcramer
its super awesome
22:58 davidcramer
all sane people use wordpress
22:58 Prometheus
sane?
22:58 Prometheus
o_o
22:58 Prometheus
who likes being sane, honestly?
22:58 Kurushiyama
nobody uses CoreBlog2 or serendipity?
22:58 Prometheus
I like reinventing the wheel
22:59 Kurushiyama
Prometheus: well, you can start with an almost round stone.... ;)
22:59 Prometheus
Kurushiyama: I am ;)
22:59 Kurushiyama
Prometheus: you are starting with an almost round stone?
22:59 Prometheus
actually, I'm not so fond of reinventing the whole wheel
22:59 yogi_
22:59 Prometheus
just the important bits ;)
23:00 Kurushiyama
Prometheus: you could call it roundstone
23:00 Prometheus
I should
23:00 Kurushiyama prepares a bill for namefinding of 1 trillion dollars
23:00 Prometheus
:)
23:01 Prometheus
I've got a stockpile of good names ;)
23:01 Prometheus
for various projects I haven't had the time to implement
23:01 Prometheus
(don't we all have that?)
23:01 Kurushiyama
wmealin1: you really gave me some thought about Magus
23:02 Kurushiyama
Prometheus: the need for food and shelter were my main reasons
23:02 Prometheus
Kurushiyama: fair enough
23:03 wmealin1
Kurushiyama: how so ?
23:03 Kurushiyama
wmealin1: he would have said if he wasn't here for a longer period, wouldn't he?
23:04 Kurushiyama
Prometheus: "Well, Landlord, I am sorry, can't pay the rent - but I have a nice django app I can offer you...."
23:05 wmealin1
i'd have thought so
23:05 Kurushiyama
wmealin1: I am on for several hours a day and didn't see anybody mention he did so, nor have I heard it from him
23:06 Prometheus
wow, snakes and rubies is 3 hours long
23:06 mattmcc
And very, very out of date.
23:06 Prometheus
that's longer than The Dark Knight o_o
23:06 Prometheus
mattmcc: of course, but it was just for entertainment purposes ;)
23:06 Kurushiyama
Prometheus: it's worth it, though
23:06 mattmcc
Prometheus: Eh. Assholes don't entertain me.
23:08 enoj
What's a good implementation for translation on models?
23:08 juice_d
hey all, i got that query working with the foreign key. Is there a way to retrieve a column in the joined table with my query?
23:08 Prometheus
Kurushiyama: I'll have to save it for another day though, it's already late as it is :(
23:08 Kurushiyama
23:09 yogi_
juice_d: you should automatically get every field of the joined models, unless you're doing some custom SQL
23:09 juice_d
ah, test it works
23:09 juice_d
thanks all
23:10 davidcramer
hrm
23:10 alperkanat
hey there.. is it possible to change template's locale setting for date tag ? i'm trying to have a multilingual site..
23:10 davidcramer
INDEX (`feed_id`, DATE(FROM_UNIXTIME(`timestamp`))) -- i take it i cant do this in mysql? :(
23:11 enoj
Kurushiyama: that doesn't talk about translation for model rows
23:11 Kurushiyama
enoj: hmm, true
23:12 Kurushiyama
no easy way, since it's not static text
23:12 Kurushiyama
django-rosetta maybe able to do it, but I am not sure
23:13 enoj
I've seen a few solutions, but doesn't know which one is the least hassle
23:14 enoj
doesn't seem like django-rosetta can do it
23:19 dembo
morning
23:20 Q45
hey, how can i instantiate an object based on its name stored in a string?
23:20 Kilarney
does anyone have ideas as to the logic behind ModelForms not automatically populating ForeignKey(User) fields with the current user?
23:21 Q45
e.g. str='Object'; new_obj = str()
23:21 alperkanat
hey there.. is it possible to change template's locale setting for date tag ? i'm trying to have a multilingual site..
23:21 jinzo
Kilarney, because you need select_related()
23:22 Kilarney
Q45: new_obj = eval( str() )
23:22 Kilarney
in your example
23:22 FunkyBob
Kilarney: ugly
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