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lirit: then as I said, axl500's method is fine

.....javascript that manipulates the HTML via the DOM api around the inputs.

worst idea ever

hello all! i'm thinking of a way to initialize some data in my DB for django projects. my current thoughts on how to do this is to setup a middleware and have this initialization happen within the init of the middleware since thats called when the web server starts... any thoughts?

axl500++;

Some day I want to wake up and see MY code on thedailywtf.

how would I write that... /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/django/contrib/admin/templates/ /home/username/development/projectname/

johannix: horrible idea

there is no "webserver start" hook ANYWHERE

some things might /happen/ to run on start, but they WILL run later

so your code will run again, and again, and again

Magus-: i saw it mentioned in the middleware docs.... "Unlike the process_* methods which get called once per request, __init__ gets called only once, when the web server starts up."

true initialization in db seems like it'd be syncdb hook

like initial sql

true...

johannix: and guess what, subprocesses of the webserver start up again later

like when apache's maxrequestperchild runs out

so where would you do something like taht?

and other such times

or should i just have a script and call it manually

I'd do it like I said

a syncdb hook or initial sql

is syncdb a DB thing? or django thing?

....

"manage.py syncdb"

remember that? :þ

so django thing, of course

ya...

i do that like ten times a day

lol

thanks...

O_O

10x?

on a bad day...

lol :)

johannix: hence the multiple options

and you don't have to reinit every time syncdb runs - check if some of the data is there, skip the rest

Magus-: ya, that makes sense

and initial sql is only run the first time the table is created

so that could be even better

well, I should say every time

it'll run again if you reset an app

i'm setting something else up... i want to log whenever a page is viewed... that would make sense happening in middleware right?

well that'd go in the process_* though

ya

perhaps you need to be more clear on what you want to init

for the logging?

hello folks :)

...what about it?

the DB init (my first question) i want to fill up some tables with data

oh, we're switching topics

gotcha

my second question is i want to use middleware to log page views

ya :)

are you confusing syncdb with unit testing?

how on earth did you get that, axl500?

nono

For my next app, I decided for the first time to use postgresql. What's the diff between the DATABASE_ENGINE postgresql and postgresql_psychopg2? What is most common?

I thought he wanted to initialize new data (fresh dataset) on webserver run.

I suppose that would be human testing

technel: the different is psycopg v1 or v2 of course, as documented :)

logic would indicate to use v2 unless you have some need to use v1

Magus-: ohh, you mean "postgresql" is just psycopg1?

as the docs say, yes

folks, I'm in love with the django templating system, isn't there a standalone version (I'll use it in a desktop app written in wxpython)

Magus-: ah, ok, thanks (I didn't see that, I looked at http://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/sett... )

johannix: why not just use apache to log page views?

axl500: i want to log it in the DB

or are you talking about doing some sort of hit counter like on youtube videos

I see

axl500: and then put that in the stats in the backend...

I'm using class Media on a form. When I use {{ form.media }} is is escaping all the html. Is there a filter to unescape

well, that's an extra processing script (AND) database hit on every request, johannix

axl500: I'm sure he realizes that

but I suppose if you really want to, then middleware would be te option.

axl500: as far as the DB init goes, i've got a couple lookups, which have gotten more complicated than just using Python dicts, so I figured it might clean stuff up if put it in the DB. cleaner lookups...

anyone? :/

please? :)

bododo: no, there eisnt

axl500: ya, i know. i think it's worth the tradeoff for this site...

bododo: you can decouple it

bododo: there's one similar to it though, google for jinja (specifically v2, I think its in beta right now though)

and use it as its own library (afaik)

Magus-: thanks for the info, what would you advice me instead?

bododo: see http://www.b-list.org/weblog/2007/sep/22/standa...

Magus-: thank you! :)

rhank you rozwell :)

bododo: but you can't just rip the template package out django if that's what you want

I'd still look at jinja for a standalone

rozwell: it's exactly what i want in fact, the app is a desktop one, i don't need the whole framework

Magus-: it, in fact, seems great!

any ideas on how to get {{ form.media }} to not encode the resulting html tags?

neybar: if you looked at the template docs you'd see a variety of ways

and file a bug since it probably shouldn't be doing that to begin with

neybar: |safe

as far as i can tell form media objects use mark_safe

running it through |safe did the trick. It seems like if you are using a media declaration that it aught to be considered safe be default.

like I said

so file a ticket :)