DjangoBot: #django

oh, I'm aware - I'm not changing my mind :P

Cide: and arguing doesn't write code in either of our computers :)

I was merely looking for a better way than specifying the absolute path to the permalink decorator

Cide: too bad, since debugging will really suck

[530]: why, exactly?

Cide: conflicting modules

[530]: elaborate please

import somemodule may mean two different things

yes

if somemodule already exsists

and from . is py25 only

which I'm using

I'm coding this for py25

Does anybody not develop projects using the whole manage.py startproject routine?

so there is no issue

bryan: Well, startproject just copies some skeleton files..

i use startproject still, i don't use startapp at all anymore tho

True true. The sky is falling on my app, imports are failing all over the place.

Cide: i keep all my code 2.3 compatible, just like djagno

[530]: well, that's a decision you made

I made a different one

Like. template_utils isn't finding it's own modules.

Cide: and django

[530]: yes

bryan: what version of Python and what kind of imports are you doing?

and did you _not_ use startproject?

Cide: so, i would say good practice

[530]: so you're saying everything done in python past 2.3 has been useless?

http://dpaste.com/40810/ Am I missing something or should the url for largepic have the MEDIA_URL prefixed to it?

Cide: no, but keep the code portable

mikeal: 2.5.1 and nothing special. I'll load template_utils... and then I'll get an error that generic_content can't find template_utils.nodes when nodes.py is there. And no, I didn't use startproject.

Cide: someone may spring python 2.3 on you

mikeal: Only reason I'm using that as an example was that it isn't mine, so it rules out the stupid error explanation. :p

and nodes is an object in template_utils, not a sub module

[530]: it's my dedicated server :)

question: I have some custom logic to manipulate fields of a Model before saving it. should this logic be in the view (which calls the actual save()), or should it go into the Model?

Cide: happened to me when i needed hosting

oh, so template_utils is installed in to Python

it's not even part of your app

mikeal: Yep.

I made a conscious decision to use features from py24 and up, and I don't think you can argue that it's a valid decision

err, invalid

i run py2.5 dedicated too

how did you install template_utils?

but 2.3 at work

setuptools?

Does anybody use FileField and ImageField successfully?

py25 gives me nice stuff like... explicit relative imports

I tried both ways, installing it using distutils and just throwing it in my project directory.

mikeal: svn co :)

[530]: That. :P

py25 also has the datetime.strftime method iirc

I'm trying to use them for the first time and I'm getting a weird issue as shown in the dpaste.

or svn export

svn co and then you ran $ python setup.py install _or_ $ python setup.py develop?

MEDIA_ROOT is defined correctly and uploaded files get saved there.

mikeal: Yep.

drop in to a Python shell

import tempalte_utils

template_utils.__file__

mikeal: no, just to a path on PYTHONPATH

It's happening everywhere in my app though. If an app has a templatetags directory that needs something from it's parent, it won't find it.

make sure that looks right

The problem is that model.get_field_url() returns just the file path, without MEDIA_URL prefixed on the front.

[530]: I've littered my PYTHONPATH, and it still doesn't work. :/

ok, so sys.path might be getting mangled somewhere

what i would do

is there a link around where i could some real use of django testing component ?

bryan: the tag is in a project?

*see some

is drop in to a python shell and check template_utils.__file__

and then drop in to the django manage.py shell

or add a debugging statement somewhere in your app before the failure

checking the same thing

and make sure they match

if i got shell acces i could fix anything, or a "brain-transfer" :P

because when django starts up it does some changes to sys.path to add your apps parent directory, that could be messing something

you can't drop in to a Python shell where you are developing this?

It's giving me errors. What's weird is that it used to work, now it doesn't.

echo $PYTHONPATH

is that screwed up in some way?

mikeal: noly the dev server does that, and the taglib loading

only

also, you may wanna try python -v

I checked it through import sys, print sys.path and it looked fine.

ok, are you two people in the same room, or are you completely different people with different problems

i'm now officially confused

I'm sure 2 people with different problems.

bryan: so the import is giving you errors, starting the python shell is _not_ giving you errors

Yes.

And it's only templatetag directories. :/

[530]: i have no idea how to debug something without access to a Python shell, sorry :(

Does anyone other there use Git to manage their django projects?

err, anyone out there... i can't type

is there a particular reason you're adding the parent directory for tempalte_utils rather than installing in to Python?

adding the parent to PYTHONPATH that is

It's just worked that way for me before.

cpengwin: just django, but i can probably help

But it's weird that something that should work out of the box, doesn't.

ok, so what I do, and you don't _have_ to do things the way I do, but I use setuptools' develop mode for packages I checkout of svn repos