2008-8-28

23:36 p--
hahah
23:36 p--
thanks
23:36 mattmcc ponders what solving actual problems deserves if pointing out elementary python errors gets a brewery.
23:36 Magus-
hey FunkyBob, did you catch the writeup on capistrano? (i can't recall if you were interested in that or not)
23:37 jose
hello all, I got a question about databases
23:37 FunkyBob
Magus-: no, I didn't... (and yes, I am vaguely)
23:37 p--
mattmcc, it's not that I didn't know that, I just been looking at this for a fucking hour and didn't notice it until he just said that
23:37 Magus-
answer: SELECT 42;
23:37 Magus- whistles innocently
23:37 FunkyBob
what I need to check now is proper usage of get_or_create
23:37 FunkyBob
Magus-: hehe
23:37 hooch
win 25
23:37 mattmcc
p--: Ah. A good practice when being stuck on a problem for what seems like 'too long' is to get up and walk away from the computer.
23:38 mattmcc
Focusing too hard often makes it less likely to find the cause.
23:38 jose
I've defined a row for an email address
23:38 jose
but I've defined it as charField
23:38 rbd_
quick question, would the following snippet work with a form.ModelForm: http://www.djangosnippets.org/snippets/165/
23:38 FunkyBob
explaining it to someone else (preferably spoken) often helps, too
23:38 p--
mattmcc, I know.. Im leaving for the weekend in a few hours and wanted to get these changes done :)
23:38 jose
is there a way to modify it as EmailField?
23:38 p--
mattmcc, instead im now behind schedule
23:38 mattmcc
p--: Wel,l I didn't mean that drastic. Like get up, walk around outside for a few minutes, have a snack..
23:39 mattmcc
Just enough to get you to stop thinking about the problem.
23:39 Magus-
rbd_: the validators are gone
23:39 p--
mattmcc, yea.. you're right..
23:39 Magus-
not just validator_list
23:39 p--
anyways, thanks again Magus-
23:39 Warcrime
If I a multiple choice question, which can either have 4 multiple choice answers, or 2 (true/false) answers. What is the best way to design these models? One question and one answer object which links via foreignkey to the question model?
23:39 Magus-
Warcrime: don't repeat yourself so fast
23:39 Magus-
we saw the question
23:39 Magus-
we have no answer
23:39 Magus-
hence, no response
23:39 gkelly
jose: I believe the underlying database column is the same, but you can always check by looking at what manage.py sql says
23:40 terral
Warcrime: it seems like suboptimal Model planning.
23:40 FunkyBob
ah... seems I was mistooked... get_or_create saves the new object for you
23:40 jose
I deleted de "Email" row from de DB manually, but now I do a SyncDB and it does not create anything
23:40 Warcrime
What do you mean by that terral?
23:40 jose
shoudn't it rebuild it?
23:41 gkelly
jose, not if the table already exists. Django won't modify existing data
23:41 Magus-
jose: you mean you deleted the /table/ ?
23:41 Magus-
or do you mean column?
23:41 Magus-
django doesn't make rows on syncdb
23:41 jose
I deleted the column
23:41 Magus-
yah, no
23:42 Magus-
django doesn't modify existing tables, as gkelly said
23:42 Magus-
so it will never add/remove columns
23:42 jose
oh... so if I delete the table it will create it again?
23:42 terral
Warcrime: well, it really sounds like you need 2 different types of questions.
23:42 Magus-
yes
23:42 jose
great, thanks then
23:43 rskumar
is mod_wsgi preferred over mod_python while deploying on apache
23:44 snipe65
hey guys, I've installed and enabled memecached on my django setup. I'm also using django's session implementation, and I wanted to know is there a way I could force django to write session info to the db every once in a while ? Basically the way its working, is that sessions are in memecached and nothing is written out to the database, obviously this poses a bit of a problem if I reboot my server or it crashes....
23:44 Magus-
snipe65: write your own backend
23:46 snipe65
is there a howto on how I would go about doin that ? :|
23:46 largos
django's send_mail(...) method appears to hang indefinitely when I try using it -- can anyone suggest some debugging techniques to see what's up? (is there a debugger I should be using?)
23:47 rskumar
largos: you can use winpdb debugger, just choose the file where you calling, set breakpoints and run the django server thats it...
23:48 Magus-
snipe65: not that I'm aware of - just start with an existing backend
23:48 largos
rskumar: thanks! I just found some tips on setting up django w/ gmail, so I'm trying that first...
23:49 snipe65
Magus-: when you say backend do you mean something along the lines of django.contrib.sessions.middleware.SessionMiddleware ?
23:50 Magus-
no...
23:50 snipe65
I'm a bit new to this :|
23:50 Magus-
note the "backends" folder in contrib/sessions
23:50 Magus-
maybe I'm talking abou tthose... :รพ
23:50 snipe65
thanks :)
23:53 snipe65
now, in your opinion would it be better to "customize" the current session's backend or completely write my own ?
23:53 Magus- shrugs
23:53 juice_d
sorry to bother you again Magus- , I have a choices field in my mode, but self.choice returns the int of the choice, is there a way to pull the value instead of the key
23:53 juice_d
kind sir
23:53 snipe65
ok
23:53 Magus-
juice_d: do not nag me directly with questions
23:54 Magus-
ask the channel
23:54 Magus-
if I know, I speak
23:54 juice_d
will do
23:55 gkelly
juice_d: get_choice_display should do it
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