2008-6-18

20:27 jacobkm
(worksforme is usually the right status there)
20:29 telenieko
mm thanks I know need to find the ticket for which I asked more info :)
20:29 telenieko
iep, found it, Timeline rocks
20:31 telenieko
jacobkm: as you're around, will you be the nice guy to add estonian to global_settings.py? (diff in #7141 settings.diff)
20:31 DjangoBot
20:32 jacobkm
telenieko: yeah, I'll do it in a few -- I'm in the middle of something
20:32 telenieko
ok don't worry, I'll take a look at Lithuanian by the way ;)
20:38 telenieko
lt > Lithuanian, also for global_settings when you can ;)
20:48 jacobkm
20:48 telenieko
In English, month names are always uppercase ?
20:49 jacobkm
telenieko: yes.
20:49 telenieko
Thanks.
20:51 jacobkm
telenieko: et is now in global_settings.
20:51 telenieko
Nice, and lt ?
20:52 jacobkm
telenieko: lt == Lithuanian, yeah?
20:52 telenieko
yes
20:52 jacobkm
adding now.
20:52 telenieko
#7458 you can close it when you commit the global_settings
20:52 DjangoBot
20:53 telenieko
That leaves us with two translation tickets left, one is likely to be closed and the other is in jezdez hands, hurray :) and newforms-admin only introduces 5 new strings :))
20:54 jacobkm
telenieko: done
20:54 telenieko
thanks!
20:54 jezdez
telenieko: you mean the german thing?
20:55 jezdez
#7477?
20:55 DjangoBot
20:55 telenieko
jezdez: that one
20:55 jezdez
ok, is on the todo list
20:55 telenieko
there's no hurry, until 2nd September :)
20:57 jezdez
:)
20:57 jezdez
telenieko: have you seen #5522?
20:57 DjangoBot
20:57 telenieko
I'll play around with msgfmt --statistics to see which translators to blame during summer, hehe.
20:57 jezdez
telenieko: hehe
20:58 telenieko
jezdez: nope, There are atleast two tickets about those two commands (one is mine) I have to crawl my mail I think Malcolm told me somebody was working on them.
20:58 jezdez
yup, me :)
20:58 telenieko stops searching then
20:58 telenieko
:))
20:59 telenieko
what is django/conf/locale/messages.mo ?
20:59 jezdez
I had a thorough look at babel today, since I somehow find it weird how make-messages works
20:59 jezdez
hm, dunno
20:59 jezdez
why?
21:00 telenieko
Nothing, it's some nasty file I created somehow. I thought it came from svn ;)
21:00 telenieko
but it was created running make-messages.py -a
21:00 telenieko
I think not too many people run it with -a :)
21:01 telenieko
I can't find the ticket I filled for make-messages "once upon a time", it was about make-messages changing the Created-Date instead of last changed. Just in case you work on it ;)
21:01 jezdez
well, this is what I feel should be changed in make-messages. if there is an error in its inner loop, it leaves the translator with filename.ext.py files
21:02 jezdez
oh, no, not that one actually :/
21:02 telenieko
jezdez: #6106
21:02 DjangoBot
21:03 telenieko
I've filled 38 ticket since I started using django :)))))
21:04 jezdez
has there been some discussion about the fate of localflavor, btw?
21:04 telenieko
not that I'm aware of
21:04 telenieko just realized that after 1.0 goes out he'll own the 7th oldest ticket in trac!!!! (#689)
21:04 DjangoBot
21:05 telenieko
The last think I remember about localflavour was on The Roadmap, but I'm not sure what jacob told about it.
21:07 telenieko
882 translated string + 92 unstranslated make up a complete translation of Django in case you were curious ;)
21:07 telenieko
Anything above 882 has msgid copied over msgstrs!
21:08 jezdez
good to know
21:08 jezdez
maby we should keep a log about that
21:09 telenieko
about the magic number? msgfmt --statistics es/LC_MESSAGES/django.po :)
21:09 jezdez
I think I will follow malcoms idea and look at #6106 once #5522 is merged
21:09 DjangoBot
21:09 DjangoBot
21:12 jacobkm
jezdez: #5522 looks awesome; if you want to add **New in Django development version** flags to all the new commands I can check it in.
21:12 DjangoBot
21:12 jezdez
w00t
21:12 jezdez
will do
21:13 telenieko sees the day for #6106 coming!
21:13 DjangoBot
21:15 telenieko
jacobkm: did you see my mail about my brand new super cow powers?
21:16 jacobkm
telenieko: yeah, I dunno why that is. I'm gonna fool around and look... for now try to to break anything :P
21:16 telenieko
Am I the only super cow? I try to keep my mouse out of the right of the screen to not touch the "big red button" hehe
21:17 jacobkm
There's a couple of Trac admins; I might have just added you to that group to save time.
21:20 jacobkm
telenieko: OK, seems I can't let you batch modify without letting you do those other things, too. So just be caareful, OK?
21:20 jezdez
jacobkm: I changed a lot of "make-messages.py" in the continous text to "django-admin.py makemessages" (also with compile-messages). should I keep those changes and add **New in Django development version**?
21:21 telenieko
jacobkm: I promise to be carefull. Thanks
21:21 jacobkm
jezdez: maybe the first time you use it put a note in warning about the change. Thereafter you can just use the new version.
21:21 jezdez
great, will do
21:22 [530]_
i have a question, i am working on #6587 and i wonder about #3349, was thinking about combining that into my patch but just wondering if the solution with wrapping the exeption in a function is a good idea.
21:22 DjangoBot
21:22 DjangoBot
21:23 jacobkm
[530]_: I'm -1 to the patch on #3349; this sort of exception monkeypatching really is nasty. I agree that Python's ImportError is a bit broken (and if you look at the python-dev archives you can see that many agree) but working around it in this way... ugh.
21:23 DjangoBot
21:23 telenieko
[530]_: note that #3349 's patch also touches the exceptions of other loaders.
21:23 DjangoBot
21:25 [530]_
but it can be done by just raising with the traceback like raise ImportError, "Could not import settings '%s' (Is it on sys.path? Does it have syntax errors?): %s" % (self.SETTINGS_MODULE, e), get_prev_traceback()
21:25 [530]_
if i'm not wrong
21:31 [530]_
like this http://dpaste.com/57423/, or is this still monkeypatching?
21:32 [530]_
or skip this patch alltogether
21:44 telenieko
one ticket less for 1.0 :)
21:45 telenieko
[530]_: It seems a bit less monkey ;)
21:54 jezdez
jacobkm: added new patch to #5522
21:54 DjangoBot
21:56 telenieko
some manpages are scheduled to die then :o
22:02 telenieko
midnight! time to sleep. Good night allĀ”!
22:06 jezdez
night telenieko
23:32 cramm
jezdez: Hi. So do yopu know if is #5522 going to land on trunk before 1.0?
23:32 DjangoBot
23:34 Alex_Gaynor
Yeah, I'm pretty sure jacobkm said he was going to look at putting it in after jezdez added the latest patch
23:36 cramm
jezdez, Alex_Gaynor : because I had been getting a translation 'coverage' statistics fetching script similar to make-messages reviewed by Malcom and it was almost ready. I could refactor it to make use of the new laout of things after the move to the management commands infrastructure
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