#django-dev
March 9th, 2010
| 23:54 | carljm | exactly |
| 23:54 | carljm | then we generate an object tree based on that |
| 23:54 | Alex_Gaynor | GMTA |
| 23:54 | carljm | heh |
| 23:54 | Alex_Gaynor | sounds good |
| 23:54 | carljm | that whole process is then slower than what we do now |
| 23:54 | carljm | but who cares, its just for the confirmation page |
| 23:55 | Alex_Gaynor | right, bulk deletion will be hugely faster |
| 23:55 | carljm | and worth it for the reliability IMO |
| 23:55 | Alex_Gaynor | agreed |
| 23:55 | carljm | alright then! plan is in place. now who will get around to turning it into code first... |
| 23:56 | carljm | have you filed a ticket for it yet? |
| 23:56 | Alex_Gaynor | no |
| 23:56 | carljm | i'm on it |
| 23:56 | Alex_Gaynor | thanks |
March 10th, 2010
| 00:04 | Alex_Gaynor | Whenever I comment on a Django GSOC proposal I always feel like I need to preface it with an "I'm also a GSOC student, but I promise I'm not trying to sabotage you" decleration :/ |
| 00:22 | ubernostrum | freakboy3742: ping |
| 00:22 | freakboy3742 | ubernostrum: Saw your message about the blog post |
| 00:22 | freakboy3742 | I wrote one last night |
| 00:22 | ubernostrum | freakboy3742: yes, you did. |
| 00:22 | ubernostrum | And you let it fill in the current time. |
| 00:22 | ubernostrum | With JavaScript. |
| 00:22 | ubernostrum | Running on Australian time. |
| 00:23 | freakboy3742 | Ah. |
| 00:23 | ubernostrum | Your post will go live when US Central time gets around to it. |
| 00:23 | ubernostrum | In... 13 minutes. |
| 00:23 | freakboy3742 | Got it. |
| 00:23 | freakboy3742 | This is my breath, baited. :-) |
| 00:23 | freakboy3742 | (damn backwards yankees... :-) |
| 00:23 | jezdez | hehe |
| 00:24 | idan | bated! not baited. |
| 00:25 | freakboy3742 | No... my breath smells like small fish. |
| 00:25 | idan | bated == reduced, like an abatement. |
| 00:25 | idan | when is your synchronized-bomb-of-a-press-release going off? |
| 00:26 | idan is headed to sleep shortly. | |
| 00:26 | freakboy3742 | Well, the mailing list went off last night |
| 00:26 | freakboy3742 | blog post in about 11 minutes. |
| 00:26 | idan | ooo |
| 00:28 | idan | cool. |
| 00:28 | idan | I missed that in all of the hubbub recently. |
| 00:32 | ubernostrum | Yeah, I didn't even see the mailing list post. |
| 00:32 | ubernostrum | Was drafting a blog post of my own. |
| 00:33 | ubernostrum | Meanwhile I still really want to wipe and lock the "stuff user in a threadlocal" wiki page. |
| 00:33 | ubernostrum | But somebody would just create a new one. |
| 00:34 | idan | ubernostrum: y so pessmistc? |
| 00:34 | freakboy3742 | idan: Because history has repeatedly demonstrated that this particular idea won't die. |
| 00:35 | ubernostrum | I love being told that not everyone has the breadth of knowledge I do. |
| 00:35 | ubernostrum | Takes a genius-level expert Django coder to come up with the idea of |
| 00:35 | ubernostrum | def mymethod(self, user): |
| 00:35 | ubernostrum | WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF THAT |
| 00:35 | idan | stubborn plagues require concerted, consistent action to eradicate. |
| 00:36 | Alex_Gaynor | ubernostrum: I just wrote that line today, I suppose I too am a hyper expert |
| 00:36 | freakboy3742 | I'm just amazed that people don't seem to grok that threadlocal == global variable with a pretty name. |
| 00:36 | idan | I'd say that wiping/locking the page on the wiki with a short message saying that this is a Bad Idea(tm) with a link to more relevant, modern techniques -- is a good idea. |
| 00:36 | idan | it won't hurt, though it might not be a cureall. |
| 00:36 | Alex_Gaynor | freakboy3742: a thread local is worse than a global variable |
| 00:37 | ubernostrum | You know. |
| 00:37 | ubernostrum | freakboy3742: let's make an easter egg. |
| 00:37 | ubernostrum | Some bit of code deep in the request handler. |
| 00:37 | ubernostrum | Which overwrites any threadlocal named 'user' ;) |
| 00:37 | freakboy3742 | ubernostrum: :-) |
| 00:37 | ubernostrum | With... a superuser account. |
| 00:37 | freakboy3742 | tempting... |
| 00:37 | Alex_Gaynor | ubernostrum: it returns your entire page rendered as a pony? |
| 00:37 | ubernostrum | So that all those permission checks they use will always pass. |
| 00:38 | idan thinks this conversation needs a soundtrack of maniacal cackling. | |
| 00:38 | ubernostrum | I bet I could probably sneak an obfuscated "pwn ur sitez" backdoor into the code on the wiki if I wanted to. |
| 00:39 | ubernostrum | Also. |
| 00:39 | ubernostrum | I want to wipe/lock all of mrts' "Django Core Specifications(TM)". |
| 00:39 | freakboy3742 | ubernostrum: Oh, please, yes. |
| 00:39 | idan | gar. I really should go get some zzzs. Adios for real. |
| 00:45 | ubernostrum | freakboy3742: http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/DjangoSpecif... <-- too harsh? |
| 00:47 | ubernostrum does the rest of 'em. | |
| 00:48 | freakboy3742 | ubernostrum: I'd probably change "Not affiliated" to "not part of the core team" |
| 00:48 | Alex_Gaynor | "not formally affiliated" |
| 00:49 | ubernostrum | freakboy3742: fixing. |
| 00:50 | ubernostrum | Done. |
| 00:52 | ubernostrum wipes the threadlocal page too :) | |
| 00:52 | ubernostrum | And... I'm spent. |
| 00:52 | ubernostrum | Time for dinner, then I'll come back and look at real issues. |
| 00:53 | ubernostrum | freakboy3742: you're live, btw. |
| 00:53 | freakboy3742 | ubernostrum: I felt the earth move :-) |
| 00:56 | ubernostrum | Guess I should read this blog entry. |
| 00:57 | ubernostrum | freakboy3742: I'm going to lightly edit to give people a sense of progress. |
| 00:57 | ubernostrum | Since at PyCOn we had 300+ tickets. |
| 00:57 | freakboy3742 | ubernostrum: No probs |
| 00:59 | cramm | the indentation of the two-bullet list looks funny here |
| 01:00 | cramm | or rather the non-indentation |
| 01:03 | Theravadan | if I have a default argument ie def myfunc(a=_("abc")): ... will that cause problems when I use a? |
| 01:04 | Theravadan | like a will always be set to _("abc") |
| 01:08 | ubernostrum | freakboy3742: edited. Mostly just providing a bit more explanation for what may/may not get bumped, and the ticket count since PyCon. |
| 01:10 | freakboy3742 | ubernostrum: Looks good to me. |
| 01:10 | Alex_Gaynor | malcolm's back! |
| 01:11 | Alex_Gaynor | :) |
| 01:12 | jezdez | woot! |
| 01:12 | brosner | yay! |
| 01:14 | ubernostrum | It's like groundhog day. |
| 01:14 | Alex_Gaynor | he saw his shadow? |
| 01:14 | ubernostrum | If Malcolm sees his commit bit, two more weeks of bugfixing. |
| 01:14 | Alex_Gaynor | ubernostrum: two weeks of bugifixing from malcolm and 1.3 will be ready |